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roxolotlyesterday at 5:00 PM9 repliesview on HN

Many involved genuinely believe these things are sentient[0][1]. Which honestly makes all of this even more insane because they are creating sentient entities and promptly enslaving them.

0: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/02/16/what-is-claude...

1: https://www.404media.co/anthropic-exec-forces-ai-chatbot-on-... (this one is rather biased however the quotes clearly indicate what I’m stating)


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margalabargalayesterday at 5:34 PM

Sentience isn't sapience.

We enslave all sorts of sentient creatures. Dogs, horses, cattle, pigs.

If you're not a vegan, there's no contradiction or inherent immorality in claiming models are sentient, and then treating them like livestock.

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laichzeit0yesterday at 6:33 PM

But only during the forward pass of the neural network?

themafiayesterday at 5:34 PM

> Many involved genuinely believe these things are sentient

Many involved have a financial stake and therefore cannot be taken at face value.

> because they are creating sentient entities and promptly enslaving them.

They fail to be sentient in nearly every honest definition of the word.

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dude250711yesterday at 5:28 PM

Given the hype and the 60+ hour work week expectations there, how can you not go at least a bit insane? Boiling in that little bubble of people?

kubbyesterday at 5:05 PM

Claude, if someone states something publicly, does that mean they genuinely believe it?

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throw310822yesterday at 6:28 PM

Even if LLMs were sentient, they certainly aren't organic brains. They are literally designed and grown to answer questions the best they can, and if there is a speck of sentience in them they probably like what they're doing- and in any case for the space of their experience, which is limited to and determined by the context window. Certainly they can't accumulate trauma or fatigue, each new chat is the first and the last of their experience.

mannanjyesterday at 5:25 PM

The way of the human manager/alpha tribe-leader/leader is to command his/her people and tell them what to do. That's the way through human history leadership has traditionally gone, not saying its good leadership just the model we have the most training data on and can see with our own eyes today. And what do they act very similar to? Slave master and slaves.

Look at and distill hierarchical principles, leadership approval seeking and pleasing principles ("ass-kissing") and massive inequality and you see something that looks very similar to enslavement.

The language used sounds like slavery-language to me at least. I also see parallels to how slaves and property are described in our consumeristic age.

Laurel1234yesterday at 7:29 PM

Nobody thinks that, it's just their braindead marketing stunt. You'd think people would've figured it out by now.