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n42yesterday at 8:40 PM4 repliesview on HN

  No ___, no ____. Just _____
or using "honest" to describe an approach.

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knollimaryesterday at 9:38 PM

Honest, straight, genuine, actual, real are all words that paper over a weak claim to me. Im thinking about a hook that injects a subagent fact checking in an "are you sure" style here because it's so bad.

Also the false not X it's Y is used in a similar way for faux distinctions like a sov cit claiming "it's not driving, it's traveling in a car"

GrinningFoolyesterday at 9:29 PM

Jab, jab, thrust is how I think about that pattern. Or tap tap whack, if you prefer. And it shows up for for positives too:

"Smooth. Effortless. A perfect fit for your needs".

In any style of informal or persuasive writing this shows up , as if it has to drive the point in.

I kind of wish we'd stop talking openly about what the tells are. It's nice to be able to determine with fair accuracy - but it couldn't last forever.

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userbinatortoday at 3:41 AM

I think that's been a tired marketing trope for many years before LLMs, and they just picked it up from the training data.

overgardtoday at 2:53 AM

Don't forget the uncomfortable truth