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FabHKyesterday at 8:59 PM2 repliesview on HN

Exactly. Looking at competition from China, but also the West, I don't see Tesla having a moat in EVs, in robots, or even in batteries in the medium term (compare e.g. [1]).

How can they produce the extraordinary growth and excess profits that would justify their valuation?

Fundamentals will reassert themselves sooner or later, but as we see it can take a long time.

[1] https://electrek.co/2026/05/07/tesla-4680-battery-cell-perfo...


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jmyetoday at 8:17 PM

> Fundamentals will reassert themselves sooner or later

I don't believe that's true, anymore.

TSLA is a pure meme stock. No one is investing in it because they believe in the numerous, actionable lies Musk tells. No one is investing because they think the P/E makes sense. They're doing it because they think the memes are fun, or because they think the people who think the memes are fun are bag-holders, or because they think the memes are fun AND Musk is actually still smart and adding value, etc.

It's the clearest, most obvious case for "the markets are not the economy".

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BeetleByesterday at 9:48 PM

Their per-car profit margin is the moat. Which non-Chinese company can compete?

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