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kelnostoday at 6:02 AM1 replyview on HN

I don't think that's how "evidence" works. I can imagine a lot of things in a lot of domains, but that doesn't make it real.

I absolutely can imagine a society organized around some other source(s) of happiness, but the fact is we don't have that society, and humans are not acclimated to that society. Humans are acclimated to the society we have, and there's plenty of research out there showing that many, many humans derive a significant chunk of their self-worth and life's purpose from their jobs.

And when they lose their job and can't find satisfying work, their quality of life is meaningfully impacted, in ways that cannot be fully explained by the financial impact of losing a job.

Another fine example is retirement. Many older people end up finding work again in retirement, not because they need the money, but because it helps them find purpose. Others don't retire until the day they die because they can't imagine a life without work. Yes, some people love retirement and are happy and thrive, but there are also many who aren't and don't.


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abalashovtoday at 3:24 PM

> many, many humans derive a significant chunk of their self-worth and life's purpose from their jobs.

Men, or women?

Not trying to raise gender role controversies. It's just been my observation, throughout my life experience, that men, as the primary public-sphere producers and providers, are much more tethered to public-sphere occupational identity than women. This seems validated in the experience of the structurally unemployed, e.g. in the former industrial regions.

As women are 50% of the population, give or take, I expect the politics of this might flow differently for them than for men, as a bloc.