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epistasistoday at 2:50 PM4 repliesview on HN

Calling this a "tupper ware" seems a bit emotional, you're intentionally disregarding many things that matter for devs in order to try to claim equivalence, rather than paying attention to the actual process of software creation.

For example in your "test" you're only looking at output and ignoring the entire process of creation.

In addition to that process, you're ignoring that Claude Code was first and better for a long time, why would people switch for something that produces the same output? Claude Code has been way ahead in the process of agentic software creation for a long time, I still prefer its features. Even though I think that Opus 4.7 was a big step backwards, and I've been getting worse results seemingly every day with the churn of features at Claude Code, some of that may also be me testing the bounds of how little I can specify and still get acceptable results, so it's hard to know.

Calling all these concrete realities "marketing" is itself you trying to market Codex as "good enough" instead of paying attention to how we got where we are and where we will go in the future.


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mold_aidtoday at 4:23 PM

>Calling this a "tupper ware" seems a bit emotional

Calling this "emotional" seems a little weird

bluebandstoday at 3:56 PM

Claude Code was first by a few weeks and only better for those few weeks! Have you used Codex in 2025?

amazingamazingtoday at 3:42 PM

Tupperware party is a particular thing about the social framework around promoting corporate goods.

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412876today at 3:00 PM

No, Tupperware is the exact analogy. As you point out though, the multi level marketing applies to all models. Anthropic is just the most aggressive, especially here.

Software developers are the most susceptible of all population groups for amplifying their employers' new whims. There are true believers and useful idiots, but many are just mediocre and know that playing along will further their career for a couple of years.

In the end they will be fired anyway of course.