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tornikeotoday at 2:52 PM2 repliesview on HN

IMO bad take.

You can theoretically do most things AWS does most of the time, yet people pay premium for it and keep paying for it, even though alternatives are cheaper, simpler and more performant.

I'd bet you that after 20 years OpenAI and Anthropic would still be around and kicking.

You might have a subpar product (for the price) but the reputation and history is what makes people open their wallets.


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lelanthrantoday at 3:36 PM

> I'd bet you that after 20 years OpenAI and Anthropic would still be around and kicking.

Depends. The bigger the bubble, the bigger the pop.

Only a few unicorns from the dot-com bust came out the other side (Amazon, Google, ... anyone else?), and that was a piddling affair compared to this one.

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Capricorn2481today at 4:42 PM

> You can theoretically do most things AWS does most of the time, yet people pay premium for it and keep paying for it, even though alternatives are cheaper, simpler and more performant

It's going to be debated forever whether wiring your own open source tech has a lower development cost than the equivalent AWS bill. For me, that's too broad a statement, as I have seen it go both ways. What is true: There is only some knowledge overlap between maintaining an AWS stack and having your own Prometheus logged, ceph backed set of boxes.

That is not the case with LLMs. At least, not right now. They roughly work the same and are easy to pick up. They are about as straightforward of an interface as it gets, and using them in "advanced" ways could be summarized on an index card. They are relatively fungible.

I don't see a world where OpenAI runs on brand recognition alone. It needs to be more convenient to run than local LLMs. They've done that by buying so much of the worlds hardware that it becomes more expensive to run these things locally.