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https://folklore.org/The_Father_of_The_Macintosh.html:

“There's no doubt that Jef was the creator of the Macintosh project at Apple, and that his articulate vision of an exceptionally easy to use, low cost, high volume appliance computer got the ball rolling, and remained near the heart of the project long after Jef left the company. He also deserves ample credit for putting together the extraordinary initial team that created the computer, recruiting former student Bill Atkinson to Apple and then hiring amazing individuals like Burrell Smith, Bud Tribble, Joanna Hoffman and Brian Howard for the Macintosh team. But there is also no escaping the fact that the Macintosh that we know and love is very different than the computer that Jef wanted to build, so much so that he is much more like an eccentric great uncle than the Macintosh's father.

Jef did not want to incorporate what became the two most definitive aspects of Macintosh technology - the Motorola 68000 microprocessor and the mouse pointing device. Jef preferred the 6809, a cheaper but weaker processor which only had 16 bits of address space and would have been obsolete in just a year or two, since it couldn't address more than 64Kbytes. He was dead set against the mouse as well, preferring dedicated meta-keys to do the pointing. He became increasingly alienated from the team, eventually leaving entirely in the summer of 1981, when we were still just getting started, and the final product utilitized very few of the ideas in the Book of Macintosh. In fact, if the name of the project had changed after Steve took over in January 1981, and it almost did (see Bicycle), there wouldn't be much reason to correlate it with his ideas at all.”


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adrian_byesterday at 8:53 PM

In TFA, Jef Raskin claims that the story about the mouse is not entirely correct:

JR: No. I designed it to be graphical from the ground up. But the text portions of the interface, which I also cared about, would have been cleaner. People have put together my dislike of the mouse (confusing dislike for a particular input device with dislike for graphic input devices in general; I personally prefer trackballs and tablets) and my careful attention to text handling to a false legend of my wanting a text-based machine. Andy [Hertzfeld, a major developer on the early Mac team], unfortunately, has not generally gone back to the original documents, and he’s interviewed lots of people about the history of the Mac, but not me. His website is, as a result, full of errors.

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jnainatoday at 3:31 AM

Jef's vision for a high volume appliance computer was eventually realized in the Canon Cat which he co-created with Canon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_Cat

Vision may spark greatness, but execution is what makes it real. The Hacker News crowd can debate endlessly about who conceived the Macintosh while dumping on Steve Jobs.

But Steve Jobs did what ultimately mattered: he shipped.

uxhackertoday at 12:15 PM

But the part that should not be forgot is Jef Raskin’s book The Humane Interface. Many of the ideas in the book are only now implementable with the arrival of AI.

Also he defined the difference between computers and humans as computers been precise and accurate and humans as vague, but more flexible. We have now had a paradigm shift in that ai is now the flexible interface that sometimes hallucinates.

latexryesterday at 8:29 PM

That was my exact thought when I read the submission’s title. Thank you for finding and posting the article.

This interview does seem to have a comment about it:

> Andy [Hertzfeld, a major developer on the early Mac team], unfortunately, has not generally gone back to the original documents, and he’s interviewed lots of people about the history of the Mac, but not me. His website is, as a result, full of errors.