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mschuster91yesterday at 8:49 PM1 replyview on HN

> Can you provide some calculations of being able to afford anything at all for a, say, software developer earning 80k per-year in Paris, Berlin or Amsterdam and compare that to 280k in the Valley?

I did just that in a sibling comment. 80k is upper class in Germany, solid middle class can be achieved at 60k.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48340349


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lII1lIlI11llyesterday at 8:54 PM

Does achieving "solid middle class" in Munich on 60k somehow involve inheriting an apartment from your late grandma?

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