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alfiedotwtfyesterday at 1:34 PM10 repliesview on HN

> "Free Palestine, F Zionists"

Does the FBI usually get involved when someone says these words in public in the US?


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stego-techyesterday at 1:50 PM

Not directly, no, but they’ll build a file for what they consider extremist views. Just look back to the Civil Rights Movement era for the list of things people said that would get them an FBI file - we have a long and storied history of surveilling anyone and everyone who says things that go against what political power desires.

That being said, I do think any cabin crew pitching a fit over such a hotspot name is absolutely in the wrong. That’s not a threat, that’s personal opinion, and it’s not the hotspot owner’s fault the crew conflates Zionist ideology specifically with Jewish Faith in general like an ignorant fool.

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lostloginyesterday at 6:33 PM

> when someone says these words in public in the US?

Depending on where the plane was, it might not even have happened in the US.

ajrossyesterday at 2:01 PM

Not sure why this is downvoted. This was an example from the same article.

And the answer is that the FBI wasn't involved. That was a threat the pilot made, which comes psychologically from the same place as terrorist bomb threats (and also "eat your vegetables or you'll die early" parenting). You want to control someone's behavior so you threaten maximalist retaliation.

hluskayesterday at 2:11 PM

An aircraft is not really public. The Captain and FO have a tremendous amount of power they can wield to make sure a flight passes without incident. A plane is not the place to make statements.

Granted though, the FBI didn’t actually get involved. But why let facts get in the way of rage?

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umanwizardyesterday at 8:01 PM

No. It’s not illegal to express that opinion (or any opinion) in public in the US in any normal scenario. I’m not sure to what extent the law is different on planes, but you can go outside on the street and yell “free Palestine, F Zionists” to your heart’s content and you will not have broken any laws.

isoprophlexyesterday at 2:08 PM

Imagine getting your jimmies this rustled over expressing antipathy for a genocidal regime, and sympathy for an oppressed people.

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fortran77yesterday at 2:01 PM

The "Palestinian" movement _invented_ airplane hijacking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings_an...

So yes, the FBI will get involved in this case. In this context it is something to worry about.

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tjpnzyesterday at 2:16 PM

In the UK you can get arrested for saying less.

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essephyesterday at 1:48 PM

The government of Israel has more freedom of speech and control over the US than voting citizens do.

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