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apsurdyesterday at 10:17 PM7 repliesview on HN

Heard it here on HN: problem is paying a subscription is purely additive. eventually, inevitably, they’ll take the subscription AND sell your data, serve you ads, etc.

it being against what your payment contract states just means they’ll reinvent and rename the tiers.


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scnsyesterday at 10:24 PM

> they’ll take the subscription AND sell your data, serve you ads

Streaming services claiming prior art here.

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zeristortoday at 12:40 AM

Pray they don’t change the terms a second time.

thaynetoday at 3:52 AM

From what I can tell, that's already the case for these subscriptions. They give you some extra stuff but you're still getting ads, and they are still collecting your data

avd201today at 2:22 AM

If you don't pay for a product, you are a less valuable product than if you'd pay for the product.

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micromacrofootyesterday at 10:55 PM

Yeah this is the worst, never pay for something that has ads. It's teaching these companies it's ok.

komali2today at 2:36 AM

It seems like there's no solution, then: companies will always chase the next dollar that allows them to exceed growth expectations on the earnings call. It seems like no matter what, anti-user behavior in pursuit of profit is inevitable.

Is there a solution to this?

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windexh8ertoday at 3:07 AM

This is just a copy of the YouTube model, to your point. It's not that you're going to get a premier experience. It's that you'll be spared from full enshittification. Only tech bros could possibly think making the default subscription level so bad that it would drive revenue. But here we are.