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pdonistoday at 3:17 AM5 repliesview on HN

> This is clearly not a threat.

To you, who made up the scenario and specified that it's not a threat, sure, it seems that way.

To the pilot of an airplane full of people whose safety he is responsible for, even a tiny probability that it might be a threat has to be paid attention to. In real life you don't get to specify what "clearly" is or is not the case. People have to make judgment calls, and in certain contexts they are going to err very strongly on the side of being safe rather than sorry.

> Being on the plane doesn't remove your right to free speech

This is not a free speech issue. This is a safety and consideration for others issue. The right to free speech does not mean the right to ignore the predictable effects that saying certain things is going to have in certain contexts. We're all supposed to be responsible adults who understand that we can't push our pet issues everywhere we go.

> We've just grown accustomed to security theater.

Easy for you to say since you're not the one responsible for the safety of a planeload of people. This is not a "security theater" issue either. You don't have the right to trumpet your pet issue everywhere you go.


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joxdosbatoday at 5:54 AM

There’s no way a reasonable person would interpret that as a threat, it feels like you’re playing silly games trying to widen the Overton window by sanewashing an obviously unreasonable reaction.

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godelskitoday at 5:23 AM

  > This is not a free speech issue. This is a safety and consideration for others issue. 
Do you think we're talking about a device named "bomb"? We're talking about a device named "Free Palestine, F Israel". Those are two different situations. How can you even claim the latter is a physical threat? I also don't care if it said "F Palestine". Neither is a credible threat on the plane or the passengers.

The only issue I can see that causing is a fight. And anyone that is willing to start a fight because someone has s stupid device name should be committed because they're insane. That's crazy amounts of petty.

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account42today at 12:51 PM

So if the pilot is informed that there is a bearded guy on the plane should he turn around as well? What if its an evil looking moustache?

_3u10today at 6:30 AM

It doesn’t.

I get my lighter through in Brazil all the time and a friend of mine got giant scissors through in Buenos Aires. It’s entirely a choice to freak out over nothing.

In most of the world you’re allowed to do outlandish things like have a beer at the mall. Or walk outside with one.

NoMoreNicksLefttoday at 3:24 AM

>even a tiny probability that it might be a threat has to be paid attention

What if it had been named "Teddy Ruxpin is my friend", but the pilot doesn't know whether that's a secret code for "I'm going to release aerosol sarin nerve gas on the plane"?

Should he react to all messages as if they are threats, because no matter how small the risk is, more than zero is too much?

If you can't know whether something is a threat or not, the only reasonable response is to treat it as a non-threat. Anything else leads to absurd outcomes that make it harder to protect from real threats.

>The right to free speech does not mean the right to ignore the predictable effects What are the predictable effects for the scenario in question? Please enlighten us, because most of us are apparently unable to predict those ourselves.

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