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ActorNightlytoday at 1:36 AM1 replyview on HN

Those folks are not "smarter", they are just louder. Just think independently for a few mins and its pretty easy to see why they are wrong.

For an all powerful AGI to exist, it has to basically beat the computationally irreducable processes within nature - i.e it has to simulate reality faster than reality, with a high degree of accuracy, which would imply that NP=P amongst other things.

And thats assuming that anyone has any idea to build an AI that can automatically build necessary simulations to make decisions in the first place. Such an AI is won't need data center with massive training data to be built. The "genesis" code will be something that is capable of figuring out how to go on the internet, and train itself. How do I know this? Because in order to figure out how to solve complex problems (like how to make humans give you control of the nuclear arsenal), is exactly equivalent to a problem of being able to write/read bytes to a file (assuming that file is a socket in Linux) and figuring out how to talk http to get a particular piece of data, without ever being trained on anything internet.

Even more so, there is a fundamental question of whether this genesis code is a P or NP problem in itself - i.e can we generate this code using a training data set, or can it only get created through simulated evolution, much like human brains and capacity for reasoning did IRL.

So as long as everyone keeps talking about number of parameters, transformers, attention, and benchmarks, I promise you we are safe against all powerfull AI.


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anon291today at 1:47 AM

This has nothing to do with p v np. An AI has no will. Even if superior to our abilities it just does what we tell it.