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JumpCrisscrossyesterday at 11:07 PM11 repliesview on HN

The amount of misinformation around this topic was absolutely nuts over the past few days. Good rule of thumb: if a YouTuber or other influencer was pitching doom and relaying this rule change by S&P as a fait accompli, stop following them.

(It was a common misconception on this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48364055.)


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mapttoday at 2:36 AM

Contrarily, you can interpret the doom pitches as a necessary political backlash whose degree of panic and whose quantity prevented the change from ending up as a fait accompli.

Public decisionmakers do this sort of thing all the time. They "float an idea", "test the waters", "put up a trial balloon". They see what they can get away with. When the decisionmaker has a strong desire for the change, it may only get rolled back if powerful and widespread public dissent makes itself known, as it did in this case. When they don't really care about the issue, they might cancel it at the first sign that anyone has an issue. We can't know their degree of insistence just based on outcomes in these cases.

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karp773today at 1:49 AM

What's the urgency to bend the rules? It is not like SpaceX is banned for good. It will be included as soon as it meets the requirements.

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stubishtoday at 12:31 AM

What was the common misconception?

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nobodyandproudtoday at 3:07 AM

Wrong.

HN has been speculating on how wealth would be extracted from 401k and IRAs at least since the November elections in 2024.

Far before any influencers even thought this would be a thing.

I thought forced cryptocurrency funds, but it turned out to be something else.

insane_dreamertoday at 1:21 AM

S&P wasn't fait accompli, but the NASDAQ 100 was

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tasty_freezetoday at 2:42 AM

Do you think that all the alarm had any effect on the blocking of the rule change? Is the right time to complain about a possible change is after it has been decided?

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protocolturetoday at 3:05 AM

>if ... YouTuber... stop following them.

Great advice.

golden-facetoday at 3:18 AM

Oh come on Jump, how can you deny it's not shady?

I could kind of agree with the argument that "well these companies stay private longer so they are more mature" but the float exemption with the seemingly arbitrary calculation to figure out weights completely belies that argument.

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zuzululutoday at 3:29 AM

Not really seeing the issue you are raising. Seems like a pretty nuanced thread.

aeternumyesterday at 11:29 PM

Yes, I think given that misinfo this was probably the right decision by S&P, everyone would be saying I told you so and screaming about providing exit liquidity.

My prediction is that this will overall end up costing index holders money though. They will ultimately get a worse entry price for SpaceX and the other mega IPOs. Only time will tell.

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l23k4today at 6:29 AM

This comment was flagged, it does not contain anything that could possibly deserve that. Shame on you people.