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lenerdenatoryesterday at 5:34 PM4 repliesview on HN

And?

When the Russians invaded Georgia in 2008, Europeans inked a deal for a second gas pipeline with them, Nordstream 2. When they annexed Crimea in 2014, Europeans went to the Sochi Olympics (which happened that same year) and went to the World Cup in 2018. And this is before you take into account the dozens of smaller incidents.

Those aren't "threats to invade European territory", not even ones that were ignored by the military. Those were shooting wars that got people killed and redrew the map in Eurasia. Europeans continued to do business with Russia more-or-less unimpeded until 2022. Many Russians still live, work, and do business in the Schengen area.

The US Congress passed a bill to fund Ukraine this week. [0]

[0] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-passes-ukraine...


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bigfudgeyesterday at 9:53 PM

The funding bill is never getting past the Senate, and even if it were the money is unlikely to reach Ukraine unless the current admin has a fundamental change of heart.

badc0ffeeyesterday at 7:05 PM

The (misguided IMO) idea was that buying their gas and integrating them into world markets would strengthen ties and liberalize them in the medium term.

Nobody believes that anymore, post-2022.

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PunchyHamsteryesterday at 11:11 PM

Well, and we are paying for those mistakes now.

EU had that weird idea that if we just be nice to Russia and tolerate their bullshit for long enough they will warm up to us. Turns out that doesn't really work for country that entire foreign policy could be summed up as "bullying and lying"

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justsomehnguyyesterday at 7:01 PM

Remind us, why US Congress funds a country on literally the other side of the planet?

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