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matsemanntoday at 5:26 AM3 repliesview on HN

> the security of all our computers depends on maintainers

Not getting paid anything, getting bullied and harassed while spending their free time maintaining things. Surely this isn't sustainable. And telling maintainers how to act will not fix anything.


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fc417fc802today at 6:52 AM

> telling maintainers how to act will not fix anything.

That depends. In this case it's good actionable advice that should hopefully lower cognitive load. Politely suggest a fork, then if the nagging persists block and move on. Sure if you're in a position of authority you have a responsibility to the community but cutting ties with a stranger who is flagrantly violating social norms is perfectly acceptable. There's no expectation that you indefinitely burden yourself with their poor behavior.

Sometimes dropping the ban hammer really is in the best interests of both yourself and the project.

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josephgtoday at 5:57 AM

> telling maintainers how to act will not fix anything.

I'm just saying its ok to ignore overly enthusiastic contributors and tell them to just fork your project.

I think this does help, actually. In my early days of maintaining opensource software I felt burdened by open PRs - like I was letting someone down by ignoring their work. "Its ok, let them do whatever in their own fork" is advice I wish someone had given me.

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stackghosttoday at 5:55 AM

>And telling maintainers how to act will not fix anything.

Indeed. For too long, maintainers were expected to be gracious, courteous, and polite at all costs lest they be labeled "problematic", except for a few who were too influential to be muzzled like Theo de Raadt or Linus.

Perhaps we need to normalize bullying people who submit obvious slop as PRs.

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