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WhitneyLandtoday at 5:40 AM7 repliesview on HN

The frontier labs commonly trade spots at the top of the benchmarks with each new model release.

The timing of these price cut discussions says to me OpenAI has no imminent release that will be edging out Mythos/Fable.

If so the question becomes when can they do so, or is this possibly a turning point where Anthropic keeps the crown to themselves for the foreseeable future.


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mattjoycetoday at 6:14 AM

At the right price, these model don't need to be the best, good enough will do. I think we're fast approaching good enough for most users.

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jrsjtoday at 5:02 PM

> The timing of these price cut discussions says to me OpenAI has no imminent release that will be edging out Mythos/Fable.

Initially I had the same thought but I think this might actually have more to do with Fable being removed from the Claude subscription later this month. At that point it becomes cost prohibitive to use for most tasks anyways & this is the perfect opportunity to compete on price, especially given enterprise customers are already looking to improve spend management

stingraycharlestoday at 5:49 AM

It seems that OpenAI lacks a clear target audience, they try to be everything for everyone. Anthropic is targeting professionals / enterprise users.

I don’t fully understand why OpenAI lacks this focus, as clearly identifying a target market is one of the first things you do with a business strategy. But instead they just seem to throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks.

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lelanthrantoday at 6:59 AM

> If so the question becomes when can they do so, or is this possibly a turning point where Anthropic keeps the crown to themselves for the foreseeable future.

This specific crown (Best Performing Model) appears to be made out of thorns: pay 100x more for maybe a 10% improvement in capabilities.

Not sure what the goal is, here.

d--btoday at 6:31 AM

The benchmark is not everything, the LLMs have their “personality” and GPT is annoying AF.

Also, I don’t about others, but I personally strongly dislike OpenAI’s leadership’s hypocrisy. I find them losing the race highly satisfying.

SilverElfintoday at 6:37 AM

I don’t think Mythos/Fable matter in attracting customers. The typical use is not going to be on the most expensive model, especially with all its frustrating gotchas like refusing harmless prompts and forcing companies to have their data retained.

If OpenAI can offer an alternative to Opus but with better pricing, it will boost their revenue at Anthropic’s cost, in time for the IPO.