alt Hacker NewsThe other major thing is almost as bad, and actually maybe even worse for trust of AI features in b2b apps:
> Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48464258
I used to be able to tell my enterprise customers something simple, that I really believe: "We use Anthropic models via Bedrock/Azure, therefore we are guaranteed that your data will not be used for training models."
That simple blanket statement is no longer true. Also, most normal people/customers only read headlines, and this is a huge story. From my point of view, as someone deploying LLMs in my apps, trust comms with my clients just got set back two years.
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> I used to be able to tell my enterprise customers something simple, that I really believe: "We use Anthropic models via Bedrock/Azure, therefore we are guaranteed that your data will not be used for training models."
They claim they're not using it for training, only for "safety", and in fact I believe them. If you think they're lying, then why didn't you think they were lying about zero retention before? And "don't throw this in the training bin" is a relatively easy policy for them to get right. Especially because, no matter what your "enterprise leaders" tell themselves, your queries probably have close to zero real training value.
What I don't believe is that they can guarantee it won't leak to non-training parts of Anthropic, leak to or be stolen by outside actors, or be coerced out of them. That risk comes from creating the record in the first place, and that is the problem.
I’m very cautious with using these tools with certain clients, as I’m often contractually obligated to do things that my downstream supplier can rug pull at any time.
You should never use any of the frontier models with operational workloads manipulating or interpreting customer data.