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This has dampened my opinion on Anthropic quite a bit. It's difficult to take their marketing for AI as an empowering technology seriously when they are quite clear in their new deployments that they do not mean empowering for you, but empowering for them and organizations that are in their (or the US government's, despite Anthropics performative disagreements with the administration) good graces. You are allowed to vibe code some dashboards, a web app or let it drive Excel, but anything more interesting than that is forbidden.

If it was just plain monetary concerns and sabotage of competitors I'd almost be fine with it, but it seems they actively want to monopolize most of human progress in their enlightened hands, lest the mob does something undesirable with these powers.


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thewebguydtoday at 5:12 PM

Don't forget their push for full regulatory capture in the name of "safety" as well so they can pull the ladder up behind them before anyone else has an equally capable model and releases it without the anti-competitive safeguards, while also pushing to completely ban open weight models, or any model trained on a certain level of compute without "rigorous" government testing and validation (which I'm sure, they'll conveniently provide the framework for).

Dampened opinion on Anthropic is an understatement.

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vlan0today at 5:35 PM

Corporation cannot help but act this way. They are too big. The pressures for profit are all that matters. That is the priority. It doesn't matter what colorful words they put on the paper to make you feel better. Look at the "green" movement 20 years ago. All talk and no action.

Stop supporting organizations that don't put humans first. Don't believe a word that anyone says. Lip service is free

californicaltoday at 5:25 PM

Yeah, I cancelled my Claude subscription yesterday after learning about their attitude of intentionally sabotaging their paying customers.

Especially after trying Fable yesterday for some benign projects and being unimpressive relative to opus.

Rolling it back is the right move, but I’m still not convinced that using them is in my best interest anymore, I’m investigating open source cloud providers now.

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varenctoday at 5:28 PM

Google has been doing the same thing for longer than Anthropic[0]. To protect their models from distillation attacks, they silently will downgrade the model's performance to essentially poison your training data without your knowledge.

A bit different than Anthropic refusing to assist with any AI development at all, but it's in the same vein and seems not widely known.

edit: reading the whole series of Google's AI Threat Tracker articles also provides some insight into threats Anthropic and others are dealing with

[0] https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/dis...

Rapzidtoday at 5:24 PM

"Only I can save us". It's a classic tragedy and cautionary tale.

The idea Anthropic was going to speed run AI so they could control the usage and make it "safe" for humanity was never altruistic; it was a HUGE FUCKING RED FLAG.

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giancarlostorotoday at 5:43 PM

Even with them making those guardrails visible, it's a bit ridiculous in my eyes. I have been experimenting with smaller models, will Claude assume I'm some Chinese or Russian agent trying to distill their secrets and bar me from learning? Because that's insane. What if I discover a more efficient way to build models with Claude? Well, we'll never know now. What if someone else entirely could discover a breakthrough in how we design and build LLMs.

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tlbtoday at 5:44 PM

Yes, that is basically the plan. It's based on the belief that unfettered AI would let anyone be a supervillain and destroy the world. There are enough would-be supervillains out there, but they rarely get far because they can't get teams of smart people to build doomsday machines for them. So the AI has to not let anyone do evil with it.

Unfortunately, that won't feel very much like freedom.

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inferniactoday at 5:32 PM

Wouldnt call their goverment disagreements performative, they genuinely believe they should be the only ones deciding what AI can and cannot do

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dominotwtoday at 5:42 PM

Dario's life story arc in his head when he realized what ai can do. Capture this thing and become the king of the world.

pdntspatoday at 5:45 PM

That level of control will be fleeting at best; as soon as the open models and competitors catch up they lose that influence

olbeardGeartoday at 5:40 PM

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