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jcgrilloyesterday at 11:00 PM1 replyview on HN

> What data does "they're lying" fit better than "they're earnest?"

Claim: GPT-4 is a PhD level expert.

Claim: LLMs "reason"

Claim: LLMs "understand"

Claim: AI will automate jobs away

None of these are "earnest" claims for a company to make (whatever that means). They're vacuous bullshit, and false. It's a bunch of wordsmithing papering over results that are either hidden from view or just unimpressive. Even if the person saying that shit believes it, that's not super relevant--if a company is advertising these capabilities then... just... doesn't do it, that's lying. Corporate statements aren't unilaterally determined by fallible individuals, they're reviewed, crafted products. They can be fairly critiqued as such.

> Brilliant framework: Anyone making claims about the future is not just speculating, not just wrong, but they are lying.

Not just anyone, companies in particular. If a company tells you it's building something to replace jobs, and then it doesn't do it, that company lied.


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estearumyesterday at 11:57 PM

Lol, I can name 3 specific jobs within my own company (of <10 people) that AI prevents me from having to hire for. They've been automated away.

My company itself (possible only with AI) does the work of at least several dozen people across my hundred customers or so. Those jobs are now automated away.

Does that mean you're lying, or just overly confident (and wrong) in your speculations?

FWIW, I wouldn't put Sam Altman in the category of "earnest." I'm not sure if you just aren't aware that Anthropic and OpenAI are different companies, or if you're arguing dishonestly by trying to put sama quotes in here? But weird move in either case!

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