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segmondyyesterday at 10:15 PM4 repliesview on HN

In the last few days, Chinese labs have given us MiniMaxM3, KimiK2.7 and now GLM5.2. Meanwhile US is censoring models. Reads like fiction.


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canadiantimtoday at 2:36 AM

Any idea how kimi2.7 compares with GLM5.2?

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skeptic_aitoday at 9:14 AM

I don’t understand how I grew up thinking USA is the gold standard is good and China just make cheap copies and is bad.

But these news really changes my view on China and USA. I can’t believe it almost.

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no-name-heretoday at 12:05 AM

The Chinese models are censored (too?).

> US is censoring models

For the current Anthropic issue, I’d say that’s more likely to just be generic corruption, revenge, shakdeown, and/or incompetence from the Trump admin. ‘Censoring’ might be technically correct, but I think one of the aforementioned verbs is a better fit.

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hedoratoday at 1:53 PM

I didn’t follow the news continuously enough to know what 5:21 or your comment meant.

Background reading:

https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access

tl;dr: Anthropic supports government centralized government control over models, Amazon produced a probably bogus request to pull down Mythos and Fable, so Trump pulled it down.

It’s probably bogus because no evidence of effective jailbreaks were provided, and also Fable/Mythos isn’t any more capable than OpenAI’s pre-jailbroken 5.5 offering, making it a moot point.

Anthropic can put it back up once they institute citizenship checks for their customers and ban any foreign nationals they employ from using it.

(All of the above according to Anthropic)

I’ll editorialize and say that this is blatant illegal retaliation on the part of the admin, and also that anthropic brought it on themselves with their “this model will kill us all” Mythos marketing stunt.

I guess in this story, Amazon is the useful pawn/idiot. Maybe it’ll go Shakespearean, and we’ll get some lowbrow comic relief from Bezos.