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varenctoday at 5:17 AM2 repliesview on HN

It's not good that they allow anyone that happens to be in your car briefly root access. It'd be live having an always-on laptop in your office with a open shell on it.

They should have provided some mechanism for the real owner to approve updates if the updates aren't all trusted by default.


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simulator5gtoday at 6:23 AM

Who cares? The valet could do any number of other attacks, like stealing the car, sabotage, adding a tracker, whatever. Threat modeling is important, otherwise security can harm one's own goals. Sometimes you have to briefly trust another person. I'd rather have an open shell inside a locked room when the alternative is no access at all.

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brooksttoday at 1:57 PM

How do you validate “the real owner” if having the keys isn’t enough? That sufficient to steal the car.

You could do a PIN/password, but if it is never used during operation, nobody will know it. Ask anyone who’s had a head unit that needed a PIN after losing power.

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