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csallenyesterday at 10:30 PM1 replyview on HN

My point exactly. Your grand slam-dunk evidence that all billionaires are unethical is that:

1. One started a healthcare company, and bad things happen in healthcare, and you aren't going to look into any more than that.

2. One is a rich man being sued by an ex-wife who wants his money/stake in his business.

By these standards, not only are there no ethical billionaires, but there are also no ethical millionaires, or thousandaires, or taxpayers, or politicians. Because they're almost all going to be a degree or two of separation from someone or something doing something unethical or making a claim. "Ethical" is such a high bar that no one meets it, and it becomes a meaningless standard. AOC herself isn't ethical[0][1].

[0] https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/25/politics/house-ethics-aoc-met...

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lERYaHawzMQ


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callmealtoday at 6:25 AM

>1. One started a healthcare company, and bad things happen in healthcare, and you aren't going to look into any more than that.

I did some more oldfashioned lmgtfy:

This is not just "bad things happening in healthcare". It's how you become a billionaire:

https://prospect.org/health/2024-10-01-epic-dystopia/

> Epic became the dominant vendor of databases because it was better than anyone else at combining regulatory compliance with maximizing hospital income. Epic enables the hospital to maximize the use of codes that determine the payment. “Before Epic, nobody was able to systematize upcoding,” says an executive of one hospital system.

> Epic’s software can enable doctors and hospitals to overcharge patients, insurers, and Medicare and Medicaid.

Edit: so really, "billionaire healthcare company owner" is all you need to know about the ethics of that person.