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bbbradtoday at 7:56 PM17 repliesview on HN

Read the article, but I'm still not seeing why the U.S. is pulling these sensors. Anyone have any insight?


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mullingitovertoday at 8:05 PM

There's no point in spending taxpayer money understanding what may or may not happen in the future, when we already know what will happen: Jesus is coming back. We need to spend on the military for the final battle of Armageddon.

^ Literally the beliefs of the most influential part of the political base of the administration.

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0xbadcafebeetoday at 8:09 PM

Political strategy. Step one of controlling a population is to stop information flow; you can't stop something bad happening if you don't know about it. Since the party in charge thinks climate change is a hoax, all efforts at slowing climate change are therefore bad. So you remove the tools people use to document and respond to climate change, and now everything is fixed, in your world view.

ezfetoday at 7:56 PM

Because they're scientific instruments to collect data

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clintonbtoday at 8:00 PM

The current administration doesn’t care about climate change, or believes it’s a hoax. Given this, they see no need to fund research and data gathering that tells them otherwise.

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jandrewrogerstoday at 9:07 PM

It doesn't make much sense.

There are massive gaps in our current climate models because we have almost no data about subsurface ocean dynamics. Many of the assumptions about the oceanic environment in climate models were demonstrated to not match empirical measurement a few decades ago but we don't have enough oceanic data to come up with a coherent model for the observed dynamics. Without a plausible model for these dynamics, any predictions made from climate models have a high probability of being significantly incorrect.

These sensor networks were the first step toward collecting some data that would allow us to develop a plausible model for subsurface ocean dynamics. To be clear, we are probably still a couple decades out from this in any case but removing these sensor networks from operation definitely won't help. There are very few efforts to collect this data at scale, I believe this was one of the largest.

Most people don't realize how critical subsurface sensor networks are to building accurate climate models.

caconym_today at 8:14 PM

Russel Vought. Look him up.

tjohnstoday at 8:08 PM

Dismantling monitoring programs which show evidence of climate change is one of the Project 2025 priorities.

Specifically, their plan calls for downsizing the Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (Mandate for Leadership, Project 2025, p. 676), and breaking up NOAA (p. 674), because they view these agencies as a source of "climate alarmism" and that "the preponderance of its climate-change research should be disbanded."

cyberaxtoday at 8:17 PM

"See no evil, hear no evil" - literally.

pvaldestoday at 9:47 PM

> Why they do this?

Because it damages USA. As other thousands of nonsensical choices in the last years, America always, consistently, ends scammed milked, and holding the shorter straw. Everything in this government is designed specifically to the inch to humiliate and destroy US. Acting exactly like foreign enemy agents for fun and profit.

Or maybe because it could be used (in theory) to register submarine's position.

Or maybe somebody expects to benefit from the climate change in some way, and couldn't care less if half of the planet became inhabitable in the process. There aren't many other reasonable explanations.

mort96today at 7:59 PM

It's in the republican party's interest to ensure there's as little data as possible showing any form of climate anomalies. Their party platform is that climate change is not real, and Trump is personally a big fan of coal power.

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hydroloxtoday at 7:58 PM

do you expect there to be logic behind it?

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cactaceatoday at 7:58 PM

Science is evil and must be destroyed at all costs.

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jordanbtoday at 8:18 PM

Because they're Woke sensors that are collecting woke lies about the Chinese Climate Change Hoax of course.

Also Accuweather paid a lot of money for this president and they are very interested in not having the US government compete against them with free, high-quality weather forecasting.

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SilverElfintoday at 7:58 PM

It’s to avoid collecting data that would point to major climate change issues. Things like disruption of currents that circulate across oceans. It’s really a dishonest move. We already paid to have this network of sensors, and they’re supposed to run for another 20 years. Instead they will spend 2 years visiting all this infrastructure that we have in place, and pulling it out of the oceans.

exe34today at 8:03 PM

Any data that can even remotely be tied to the climate could be used against the Turd Reich. The Fuhrer cannot allow it.

shimmantoday at 7:59 PM

Sure, it's to punish Trump's political opponents. That's all there is to it. Liberals politicians tend to support scientific endeavors, Trump wants to punish them.

Don't make it more complicated than it actually is.

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dgellowtoday at 8:02 PM

Im not sure if you know but the current US government is very much anti-science