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Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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1970-01-01today at 2:15 PM

Because half of 'AI' is just not AI, and the other half is just an LLM chatbot. True applications of AI in your product is still quite useful.

manjalyctoday at 12:59 PM

Ironic considering the article just reeks of AI.

- AI loves to use "consumers" instead of just saying people or Americans

- "You’ve spent time and budget on it, yet your audience can’t name a single company they think is doing it well. "

- "The small moments that used to make the web worth visiting are disappearing."

- "The brand that builds that recognition first gets to define the standard."

Nearly every sentence has an AI-ism...

suzzer99today at 2:46 PM

I'm shocked it's that low.

ameliustoday at 12:33 PM

"AI" translates into "we treated your problem as a black box; if it doesn't work we'll fix it later by throwing more data at it!"

polnurfertoday at 5:11 PM

60% of surveyed US customers

bcjdjsndontoday at 4:45 PM

Aiaiai.audio looks nervously on

josefritzisheretoday at 1:13 PM

The word "turnoff' is an understatement. The rubes try to sell it like the Monorail on the Simpsons. They're pushier than a timeshare. Feels like a scam.

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dananstoday at 4:08 PM

The consumer-opinion perspective of this survey misses what I think is the main factor in the general public's feelings about AI.

People have a huge capacity to absorb enshittification of everything they consume, from goods /services to culture to politics, if they receive some kind of short term gratification.

But in the back of people's minds, when people hear "AI", is the underlying question: "is it going to take my livelihood?"

IMO that's what motivates the negativity, not some miscalibrated branding.

yawnxyztoday at 2:13 PM

> "Bot fatigue sets in when the internet stops feeling honest"

if there's anything worse than LLM-written text, it's websites that rally against LLMs and AI-use, then blatantly just use AI to do the thing they're against

if you're going to be anti-ai, at least don't use it!!

queeshondatoday at 12:50 PM

Surprise - water is wet.

Yet a third or so of HN submissions are about AI BS. Just another confirmation techdorks are out of this world.

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dbvntoday at 12:48 PM

Sir, this is a Wendys. I just want my burger

hvstoday at 2:11 PM

My wife, who honestly tries to avoid technology at all costs, was working on her business site and said, "It's almost impossible to find any good stock photos with all the AI slop out there."

AI, among non-tech people means two things: slop and shitty customer service bots.

steveBK123today at 5:17 PM

I mean.. only 60%?

When you have AI startups running ads like "Why hire humans, our bots work 24/7 and don't WFH or report things to HR" (almost verbatim) .. what does one expect?

Havoctoday at 5:38 PM

I wonder how much of this effect is attributable to:

A) Crap marketing departments slapping AI on everythign

B) Actual organic hate for AI a la booing at graduation ceremony

Freedumbstoday at 1:45 PM

When you label anything with an electrical current AI, ignore all copyright, then cite AI as cause for layoffs ... what do you expect? It's all vibes. Qwen released "world models" that are video processing models instructed through text. Words have no real meaning anymore.

deafpolygontoday at 1:05 PM

To me, “AI” in their branding means data mining, collection and privacy violation.

bcrosby95today at 3:47 PM

Of course not. Who cares if something uses AI. I just want it to solve a problem or bring me joy. Why should I give a fuck if it uses AI, the internet, a computer, dead trees, or banging two rocks together.

dude250711today at 12:24 PM

Just clearly explain how you are translating all the AI "value" into a reduced price for me - consumer, and it will be welcome.

E.g. Spotify is using AI extensively, consequently I expect them to reduce the price very soon. Maybe like a 50% cut.

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UqWBcuFx6NV4rtoday at 2:45 PM

These comments are hilarious. A bunch of people saying “yes exactly!” and performing utter mental gymnastics in an attempt to convince themselves and everyone else that the only people who aren’t anti-AI are SV tech losers.

twodavetoday at 1:24 PM

Well of course they do. AI has strong association with words and phrases such as "hallucinate", "bad medical advice", "slop", etc. I can understand why a business would want to use it, but it's very seldom a win for the consumer.

tennfowntoday at 1:17 PM

I was at the grocery store a few weeks back browsing the clearance with my girlfriend.

To my amazement I picked up a, grifty “hair regrowth” supplement. Right on the top of the box, they had the text: “AI TECHNOLOGY”

If you want to know what the fuck is happening to this country you just have to understand that we’re at a point where a company finds it even worth slapping an obvious grift on an obvious grift because there’s enough low IQ idiots to buy.

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bakugotoday at 3:02 PM

The AI branding isn't aimed at consumers, it's aimed at investors. What consumers think about it is irrelevant.

This isn't unique to tech, either. In recent years, I've started to notice all the advertising around me increasingly targeting businesses and investors rather than the average person. Feels like we're quickly moving towards a post-consumer society, in which trying to convince the average middle class consumer to buy your product is no longer relevant, because that's simply not where the money is anymore.

mproudtoday at 2:41 PM

Hell yeah

cwmooretoday at 2:14 PM

I honestly thought it would be closer to 60.0031073814%

notarobot123today at 1:03 PM

What happens when VCs, governments and tech companies drive demand for a genuinely game changing technology beyond consumer's appetite for it?

thesuitonymtoday at 1:26 PM

Not really a surprise, AI is obnoxious and useless in the majority of context, and yet we're forced to deal with it.

dsigntoday at 2:11 PM

Not to detract of any of the other reasons given so far for people disliking 'AI' in the brand messaging, there's the additional "snob factor" that the average consumer will reject (perhaps because it's culturally trained to do so).

To put it simply, the last few decades have been about glorifying the average Simpson. KISS and Marvel movies. Trump-level speech. And now along comes something that is going to take the pain of deep complicated thinking away (what a relief!), but the damn villain not only walks the talk[^1], it also unfortunately talks the talk with complicated words, correct capitalization and (gasp!) em--dashes. What's not to hate about it?

[^1]: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/192777/walk-the-...

joeltheliontoday at 2:01 PM

Not surprising given that 95+% of the time it's total bullshit.

superkuhtoday at 3:04 PM

Good thing the businesses and central government no longer require US consumers to function. They can just keep circular trading within themselves. No need to get approval or use by human persons.

shevy-javatoday at 3:22 PM

Not yet 100%?

Skynet slop is still finding confused humans here. Will they end up loving and embracing their new AI masters?

LoganDarktoday at 2:29 PM

What I want to know is who the fuck is the 30% saying the internet is not less human than it was 10 years ago

Muaz_Ashraftoday at 12:38 PM

still they use AI.

nprateemtoday at 2:01 PM

If I see AI content online I bounce because I can ask AI myself. All the AI slop has zero benefit to companies doing it to me if they want to target me. But then some people watch tiktoks, so as usual we're in an echo chamber.

simianwordstoday at 1:19 PM

The correct marketing and product strategy is to not stick AI in everything. It’s to allow AI to access them. But this is a hard concept to grasp and tough to give up territory.

A good story here is notion: I don’t think they (only) stuck AI features. They made it possible for me to use it from AI. This is meaningfully different because it enables * composability *.

I record my notes in Notion using Apple Watch and summarise them or use them through Claude account which has a plugin to Notion.

Now think about it: employees in notion wont think of this as an amazing feature because it is utterly simple to implement. There’s no limelight or anything. If they had made some fancy AI integration within notion to autocomplete or whatever, the optics are better internally. But outside it is lukewarm to bad.

I wish more companies enable composability instead of bespoke AI integration within their application.

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Muaz_Ashraftoday at 12:38 PM

still they use AI

ios-contractortoday at 12:39 PM

Then why did openAI make gazillions in revenue

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genghisjahntoday at 1:38 PM

Evidently I read the room wrong. Sorry for linking to my little project. Good day to you all!

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superxpro12today at 1:20 PM

ITs only a matter of time until this somehow breaks down along party lines. My guess is the pro-business context will make republicans pro-ai before long.

aurareturntoday at 12:38 PM

There is a difference between a toaster brand saying their toasting now has AI built in vs Anthropic releasing Mythos.

The toaster brand is just trying to fool people. Something like Mythos is actually what's driving change.

In tech, Microsoft is a big reason for this turnoff. First, they forced Copilot onto Windows users. Second, they decided to market "AI PCs" by forcing AMD, Intel, and Qualcomm to put NPUs into their SoCs. But a tiny NPU is no match for frontier LLMs. Therefore, customers are sold on their PCs having something as good as ChatGPT built in but in reality, it's barely powerful enough to fix your grammar.

Everyone around me, including my elderly parents, love using ChatGPT. Go to any coffee shop and you'll see ChatGPT on nearly everyone's laptop. People aren't turned off by OpenAI or Anthropic. They're turned off by everyone else.

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