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aurareturntoday at 12:38 PM5 repliesview on HN

There is a difference between a toaster brand saying their toasting now has AI built in vs Anthropic releasing Mythos.

The toaster brand is just trying to fool people. Something like Mythos is actually what's driving change.

In tech, Microsoft is a big reason for this turnoff. First, they forced Copilot onto Windows users. Second, they decided to market "AI PCs" by forcing AMD, Intel, and Qualcomm to put NPUs into their SoCs. But a tiny NPU is no match for frontier LLMs. Therefore, customers are sold on their PCs having something as good as ChatGPT built in but in reality, it's barely powerful enough to fix your grammar.

Everyone around me, including my elderly parents, love using ChatGPT. Go to any coffee shop and you'll see ChatGPT on nearly everyone's laptop. People aren't turned off by OpenAI or Anthropic. They're turned off by everyone else.


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GrinningFooltoday at 1:18 PM

More people see/are aware of the toaster than Mythos - those pointless integrations are (I suspect) what's driving sentiment.

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rimliutoday at 12:42 PM

Nah, Mythos are Fable primary purpose was marketing. And the fables about their danger were indeed lies.

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bluGilltoday at 1:23 PM

A toaster with AI could potentially be useful. I've never had a toaster that can make toast for the whole family - you can do 2 slices but then you have to wait several minutes for it to cool down before making the next otherwise the second batch will not be done. (I have used restaurant toasters that can do this, but they are not for home use)

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fwiptoday at 1:02 PM

They're different, but average people dislike both of them.

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atwrktoday at 3:56 PM

People around me, outside the programmer bubble, hate OpenAI with a passion. It's the symbol of antidemocratic US corporations cuddling with Trump etc, right there with Tesla. And no one outside my tech bubble has ever heard of Anthropic.

This is distinctly different than the dot com bubble were people actually were euphoric about the future unfolding before their eyes.