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jujube3last Wednesday at 11:10 PM2 repliesview on HN

Person 1: give me an example of someone who was kicked out of academia for uncomfortable truths.

Person 2: [gives examples]

Person 1: oh ho! But those people are not in academia any more! They're not "practicing scientists"!

Person 2: ...


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tptaceklast Wednesday at 11:29 PM

Yes, me and my Calvinball rule of "actual scientist prevented from publishing on this subject".

There's a kind of Schneierism thing that happens in these threads; like: I could ask, ok, name a scientist practicing in this field. They exist, but they don't have names your 3rd grade science teacher knows.

Windchaseryesterday at 2:14 PM

...I don't think Watson was kicked out for "uncomfortable truths", but because his conclusions kept overstepping the evidence he presented, and in particularly sexist or racist ways.

Again, to be explicit: he did not establish that his claims were true.

That is why it's quite worthwhile to ask if Watson is the best example available. The guy was pretty openly and casually sexist, and his racism wasn't much better.

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