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netsharcyesterday at 12:54 PM10 repliesview on HN

Started a new job, with Windows 11. notepad.exe now takes 3 to 4 seconds to load on my work system... (even after closing the last tab and reopening the program).

Hah, it even has in-app purchases, for AI writing...


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beartyesterday at 1:21 PM

As slow as Windows is (very), once you start adding the corporate security tools on top of it (Crowdstrike) and have to deal with a slow and buggy corporate DNS system, it just becomes unusable.

The only way I can do anything timely now is through WSL.

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itopaloglu83yesterday at 1:18 PM

Microslop at its best.

I’m struggling to understand what their end goal is. How much can you half ass everything until your entire company becomes just a nuisance.

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9x39yesterday at 6:52 PM

It's sad. Further compounding the problem like siblings have said is enterprise security stack stuff - EDRs/XDRs, app control, firewalls, productivity police nonsense.

The second thing is that enterprises typically don't have someone fighting for the desktop UX to remain usable when PC fleets go up for purchase - pick the cheapest toilet paper is often the strategy of the day. Now you have a PC that hits a bargain price point that seemed attractive on some analysis to the CFO, it's been saddled with security software that saps 50% of the limited performance to begin with.

Plasmoid2000adyesterday at 2:26 PM

Lot's of enterprises are enabling whitelisting of apps launching using some sort of tooling - I think Microsoft provides one, and CrowdStrike etc. It's likely the delay involves a call to a backend application or even sometimes a web server. This would be on top of real-time scanning of every file before it's opened.

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hommelixyesterday at 9:10 PM

I've read some people replace notepad with Notepad2e [1]. I personally use vim as my text editor.

[1] https://github.com/ProgerXP/Notepad2e

y-c-o-m-byesterday at 4:21 PM

I can't even start notepad.exe since upgrading to 11. It complains about a missing DLL. I'm only down to a few pieces of daily-driver software that I absolutely need a non-VM Windows installation for. Once I migrate from those, it'll be a full switch to Linux for me. I've hated Microsoft with a passion for far too long

smusamashahyesterday at 5:30 PM

To everyone reading this, Win 11 Notepad CAN BE UNINSTALLED.

Old one lives in c:/windows/notepad.exe which you can open with Win+R, type notepad to open good old non-slop non-ai notpead. Or do some registry shenanigans (you can find them online) to bring that one in start menu or make it a default editor.

chris_wotyesterday at 1:58 PM

That's nothing. He have Surface Pro laptops, and of course it has Copilot built in. I tried to open an app by typing in a search. On versions without Copilot turned on, instantly finds the app. On a Surface Pro, takes a good 20-30 seconds for it even start the search.

Complete rubbish. Not a single person in the organisation likes the new Outlook.

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matheusmoreiratoday at 1:00 AM

The calculator takes 17 seconds to launch and be usable on the Windows computer I'm forced to use at work.

17 seconds. I timed it.

The old Win32 applications still launch instantly on the same computer.

> Hah, it even has in-app purchases, for AI writing...

That's disgusting, even by Microslop standards.

criddellyesterday at 1:50 PM

Sounds like something is wrong with your system.

My work machine runs Windows 11 and it's fully up to date. Notepad starts pretty much instantly.

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