and yet now the constitution bans slavery
i find the "but the founding fathers had slaves" to just be nihilistic nonsense
the united states was a manifestation of enlightenment philosophy that persists to this day (despite attacks on it)
"and yet now the constitution bans slavery"
Unless you're a prisoner convicted of a crime. Stating that the founders of the United States owned slaves is not "nihilistic nonsense", it's an important distinction to note that they sought political power for themselves, and no one else. The phrase "all men are created equal" should be interpreted as "all white land-owning men are created equal"
It took literal war to get there.