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monegatortoday at 7:30 AM6 repliesview on HN

> He goes way too far though

that's what activist have to do to shake people


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Gareth321today at 8:27 AM

I have heard this claim before but I find it unconvincing. I have given up support of movements for which activists have acted cruelly or otherwise immorally. Obviously one person doesn't represent a movement, but if I only ever see immoral people leading a movement, that will form a basis for my opinion of the movement.

My observation of these activists is usually that they seek attention at any cost. They will hurt people to achieve that attention. Worse, I don't even think it's about the movement. They just want the attention personally. Others in the movement tacitly condone this behaviour.

I think the most frustrating part of this is that they claim it's to raise awareness. Who among us has not heard of global warming? Who has not heard of data privacy? The reality is that they're not getting the public support they desire because people just don't agree with their goals or beliefs, not because the public is "unaware."

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bawolfftoday at 10:12 AM

> that's what activist have to do to shake people

That's also the line most terrorist groups use.

Its not exactly wrong i suppose. 9/11 did get Americans to think about the middle east a lot more.

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ngruhntoday at 8:21 AM

Not if it's detrimental to their cause. E.g. the just-stop-oil people have only garnered haters. A successful case might be Luigi Mangione.

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dark-startoday at 10:59 AM

doxxing and/or stalking the kids (minors) of the person you disagree with is still kind of a d*ck move though

raverbashingtoday at 7:49 AM

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kakaciktoday at 8:09 AM

Attacking families is firmly across the line and looks like crazy man's personal vendetta. Who can vouch he won't go further and ie won't kidnap a kid to achieve his goals.

No wonder he gets raided, at one point it becomes a topic about protecting one's family, left or right, moral or crook doesn't matter anymore.

Its not activist anymore in any meaningful sense, just a fanatic.

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