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The Boeing 747 begins its final descent

80 pointsby dbl000last Thursday at 3:54 PM77 commentsview on HN

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GMoromisatotoday at 8:02 PM

Anyone interested should read Joe Sutter's book, 747. Sutter was the lead engineer for the development of the 747 and he has some awesome stories.

One interesting story is that Juan Trippe (CEO of PanAm) wanted Boeing to create a double-decker airplane. He was enamored with the idea of "ocean liners" cruising the sky. But Sutter (and other engineers) knew that it would be impossible to create what he wanted, so instead they proposed a wide-body aircraft (10 seats across). Nevertheless, Trippe insisted on a double-decker design.

The engineers then created two cabin mockups. One for a double decker, which was basically two narrow-body cabins stacked on top of each other. The other was the wide-body of the 747. Once Trippe saw the trade off, he realized that the spacious cabin of the 747 was the way to go.

But even then, when he saw the second level where the pilots go, he insisted on putting passengers up there too.

I've had the good fortune to fly on the top deck of the 747. I highly recommend it.

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dylan604today at 8:39 PM

To me, any 747 without a space shuttle on top of it looks naked

thesumofalltoday at 5:26 PM

It’s such a beautiful plane. Despite having worked for Airbus, the 747 triggers emotions for me that the A380 simply doesn’t. It represents an era of aerospace engineering that will not come back (in many cases probably for the better - but still!)

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himata4113today at 8:37 PM

Those interiors look so much more pleasing than the ones we have right now even in business / premium economy class and I am not even that old!

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anovikovlast Thursday at 4:01 PM

But really, it was just about four-engine planes becoming too expensive to run. Two-engine planes won. 777 burns 30% less fuel per passenger and has almost the same cabin width. And top level became a flop because it's too narrow for a first class cabin by today's standards and all other uses for them make no sense. Top floor existed at all because it was Boeing's entry for a heavy cargo plane competition in which C-5 Galaxy won: it was meant to be a cargo plane with a small - top floor - passenger cabin.

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moojacobtoday at 6:36 PM

Didn’t read the full article but it starts with

> The jet was perhaps the pinnacle of American engineering excellence. Its retirement signals an end to an era of American culture—and ambition.

End of American ambition? SpaceX landing is rockets… today! That’s apples to apples also, both aerospace. In other fields we have literally taught computers how to talk.

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d_silintoday at 6:02 PM

1969 was truly the pinnacle of US aerospace industry - Concord, Boeing 747 and Apollo 11 all happened during this year.

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intexpresstoday at 7:41 PM

I will miss the 747. Modern planes with less engines feel less safe. I hate all the justifications used to fly long distances across oceans with only 2 engines, or only 1 engine.

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robotnikmantoday at 5:04 PM

Guess I probably wont get a chance to fly on one, flying on the 747 was on my bucket list.

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ayarostoday at 7:05 PM

I realize this might be an unpopular opinion but I never liked the look of the "hump" created by the upper deck of the 747.

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NetMageSCWtoday at 6:04 PM

Paywalled.

babbeltoday at 6:48 PM

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floorfourtoday at 6:41 PM

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ck2today at 6:17 PM

we'll always have QatarForceOne (747-8)

well as long as Congress doesn't let him keep it, hopefully

BILLION dollars stolen from nuclear missile maintenance program to refurbish it

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_VC-25B_Bridge

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spankibalttoday at 7:04 PM

> "[...] the 747 is the only commercial jet that deserves to be called beautiful."

Pathetic drivel. There's legion of commercial airliners that are more beautiful than the 747.

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