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felooboolooombalast Friday at 10:13 PM8 repliesview on HN

> they can never be taken away

Your right to 3d print whatever you want is about to be taken away (in California).

What software you can run on your computer can already be restricted.

Absolutely everything can be taken away. The simplest way to remove open models is probably to declare them a tool that terrorists could use. Crazy? Yes, the world is totally crazy these days.


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redox99last Friday at 10:21 PM

That only affects people in California. Whereas Fable being shut down affects people all over the world.

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kageroumadoyesterday at 10:59 AM

There’s going to be more and more propaganda about open models being a tool to program your children into being Chinese spies or some other absurd reason, and then a new beautiful law will be enacted unanimously, banning their use. And “thankfully," child-protecting measures will by then be implemented at the OS level.

vitally3643last Friday at 10:53 PM

Just like declaring piracy illegal stopped piracy and removed pirated materials from everyone's computers.

Everything cannot, in fact, be taken away. Don't propagandize yourself. Some things, like information, are free. Not even China can prevent all its citizens from accessing Western internet. USGov simply does not have the resources to find and audit every hard drive and USB stick in the country for illegal files. The internet cannot be censored 100% without literally cutting every cable and confiscating every radio.

The software that runs on my computer cannot, in fact, be restricted. It can be declared illegal, but there literally is no mechanism by which it can be enforced other than a government goon standing over my shoulder 24/7.

Some freedoms really cannot be removed without utterly implausible amounts of effort. Arguing otherwise is helping to erode freedom. So stop it.

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drnick1yesterday at 5:50 PM

> What software you can run on your computer can already be restricted.

Yes, over my dead body.

andaiyesterday at 12:53 PM

Well that's true isn't it? If your goal is to blow up the proverbial Death Star, you want to be running your AI locally, right?

tarpittyesterday at 4:44 PM

Your right to 3d print has been taken away, but not your ability.

gspryesterday at 12:25 PM

Anything can be taken away, yes.

But in a free and democratic society, there's an enormous difference between "the democratically chosen state powers may take something from me" and "a private entity takes away something from me on an inscrutable whim with no recourse".

Neither is good if you don't want the thing taken away. But removing the second mechanism is still a laudable goal.

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jgalt212last Friday at 11:55 PM

> What software you can run on your computer can already be restricted.

Are laws that are inherently unenforceable even laws?

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