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bel8today at 6:08 AM7 repliesview on HN

This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky.

So much wasted potential.

And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs.

Their financial growth looks doomed. It looks like they will be heavily regulated just like the next missile factory. This is antagonist to VC led turbo growth startup regime.


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sschuellertoday at 6:41 AM

The LLM improvement curve will level off and with so many AI engineering being in China they will catch up quickly.

The financial growth based on that everyone on earth will need to have an OpenAI or Anthropic subscription is quickly falling apart.

DeepSeek V4 is good enough for most of my work that that I can no longer justify paying 100x for something else. The cost difference is astronomical.

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andxortoday at 6:40 AM

That's not what is implied. Fable may still be widely available.

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cmrdporcupinetoday at 3:08 PM

Right, I cancelled my Codex sub yesterday, it ends today. I'm not American and I see the writing on the wall, I'd just as soon improve my tooling to work more effectively with "stupider" open weight models than be dependent on Lutnick and Bessent for "permission" to use the frontier models.

Sad situation is that half the talent that did the primary research and initially created these models and got them out there was educated here or taught here or have citizenship here in Canada. Karpathy, Sutskever, Hinton, there's a huge list. And for other countries, too.

In the short term this play may work for the US administration, in the long run it will only reduce the flow of talent and good will and sharing between G7 nations.

HexPhantomtoday at 10:39 AM

I share the sadness, but I'm not sure the consumer market was ever the main prize here

timurlenktoday at 6:16 AM

Well, now I'm rooting for the Europeans/chinese to develop something better and release it.

One can hope.

johnisgoodtoday at 6:14 AM

Cannot you just obtain them the same way you would obtain any copyrighted material and use them locally?

ifwintercotoday at 6:47 AM

The last bit might be the point - this has all got a bit out of hand, the US government might have decided now is the time to prick this bubble.

Either because ordinary people hate it or (more likely) because Sam and Dario have got too powerful and they’re now starting to become a genuine rival castle to the US government in elite theory terms - of course at that point you get your wings clipped

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