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hiAndrewQuinnyesterday at 8:59 AM3 repliesview on HN

I don't think that's the point. I think the point is to prove the statement. The techniques and abstractions are a means to an end; making them the point is being seduced by the beauty of the weapon.


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OtherShrezzingyesterday at 11:53 AM

Most of the interesting research I’ve ever done started while reading through the intermediate steps in an unrelated paper.

As far as I can tell from colleagues in other domains, it’s the same there. One paper will mention something off-hand and that’ll cause someone else to have a spark of insight, which turns into it’s own valuable research

freehorseyesterday at 9:33 AM

New techniques and abstractions is how mathematics expand. Mathematics is about studying structures, proving statements is a part of it but it is not all what mathematics is about. If anything, proofs themselves are a means to an end (understanding). Eg Galois developed some techniques and abstractions to prove that there is no general solution to polynomial equations of degree >=5, but these techniques and abstractions gave rise to whole new mathematical fields.

Mathematics has to be also understood from the perspective of theory building, not just problem solving.

croteyesterday at 9:31 AM

> I think the point is to prove the statement.

I couldn't disagree more.

A lot of mathematical "problems" are almost entirely pointless. Nobody genuinely cares about the moving sofa problem, or about square packing, or about the minimum number of colors needed to draw a map - it is the math that is developed during the solving process that is valuable!

An answer to a question like "what is the exact area of a unit circle" is a mere curiosity. Calculating a good-enough approximation is trivial, after all. But wanting an exact answer leads to developing calculus, which leads to most modern physics. Science was able to make a giant leap forwards due to the techniques developed, while the actual answer itself is mostly useless.

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