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More evidence is consistent with possible ancient life on Mars (2025)

41 pointsby pseudolustoday at 11:55 AM55 commentsview on HN

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raychistoday at 12:23 PM

The article is good but the title is a bit too slippery a statement in my opinion. The article is saying more evidence is consistent with possible ancient life on Mars. In astrobiology the massive problem is that geology can imitate biology. The presences of minerals formed by microbes on Earth does not prove microbes are involved in their production on Mars, it is a big jump to make.

didgetmastertoday at 6:01 PM

>..War of the Worlds, where Earth is invaded by benevolent Martians.

I don't think I have heard the word benevolent used in that context before.

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gojomotoday at 3:43 PM

I see this author has "12 honorary degrees and is an Officer of the Order of Canada". And CBC is Canada's government-funded national public broadcaster.

But it's hard to take them seriously on any particular details given that their article, up for 8+ months (!), mis-describes H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds as a story of the Earth "invaded by benevolent Martians". [emphasis mine]

It's a seminal work of scifi, which popularized the "alien invasion" genre and term "Martians' (both for literal creatures from Mars and also a metonym for any alien visitors/invaders). It's been adapted to film many times. And the Martians in it - with their disintegrating heat-rays & death-clouds, consuming human blood – are far from 'benevolent'.

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isomorphic_ducktoday at 1:24 PM

Tangential, but really looking forward to what Europa Clipper[0] finds in its flybys.

The delay in communication makes ambitious manoeuvres challenging - perhaps advances in AI (and by extension robotics) helps build much more autonomous space rovers. This could enable us, for example, to evaluate the samples by sending wet microscopes with the rover itself.

[0]: https://science.nasa.gov/mission/europa-clipper/

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londons_exploretoday at 2:20 PM

It is quite remarkable that the question of life on mars (or not) hasn't been answered conclusively despite a lot of human effort to get an answer.

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remopulcinitoday at 3:24 PM

Io credo che possa essere come dici tu ma prima servono le prove

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nephihahatoday at 1:26 PM

Viking 1 & 2 returned positive results in the seventies but these have been played down or hand waved. I think there is good evidence of microbial life in the soil or underground. We should be wary of bringing Martian microbes back to Earth, because they may find our environment too hospitable and end up invasive species.

hmokiguesstoday at 1:55 PM

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dvhtoday at 12:26 PM

Mineral that can be only formed by life, or under special conditions when water flows over rock, has been found on Mars, where water had been known to flow over rock.

NASA doesn't want to find life on Mars. They want to find evidence, so that the next probe can be more complex and more expensive than the previous one.

NASA will never send wet microscope to Mars, you know, the kind you used in school to show bacteria in dirty water. As that would instantly prove life on Mars and make ever more expensive probes hard to justify.

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