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remolueoendtoday at 9:25 PM1 replyview on HN

That might be true, but does not contradict the parent: if the design of the EU overall allows this to happen, it is indeed very undemocratic. How does the fact that the EP rejected it (multiple times), help the population of the EU states, that never pushed for this? Even worse: your argument implies, that the EU is enabling national politicians to push through unpopolar decisions, that likely would have no chance on a purely national stage.


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surgical_firetoday at 9:40 PM

The national governments are elected.

People just tend to pay a lot less attention to how their national governments act on the EU.

The solution is not to throw the EU away, it is a massive good for all countries involved, it is to fucking hold your national governments accountable, and to demand more direct participation in the EU.