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Centigonalyesterday at 4:06 PM6 repliesview on HN

Hank Green did a video recently advocating for an "orbit value tax" -- like a Georgist Land Value Tax, but for orbits. This tax would, among other things, help fund orbital cleanup and internalize the externality of polluting orbital shells. It's an idea that deserves more discourse IMO.

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLjW6zuYmos


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nba456_yesterday at 4:35 PM

And who does the tax get paid to? Some mythical Global Government that will totally work this time?

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iamtheworstdevyesterday at 5:33 PM

Ugh. People already trying to find ways to gate keep space by raising the financial barrier to entry before we've even been able to capitalize on cheap space flights. I'm sure SpaceX and others will be against this until suddenly, they're not, when they realize they're one of the few that can even afford to pay it.

Like when Amazon finally had warehouses in all fifty states and suddenly quit campaigning against online sales tax.

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nradovyesterday at 4:56 PM

Do you think Russia will be willing to pay a tax on their new Rassvet constellation?

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mikepurvisyesterday at 8:23 PM

Lots of cynical replies here unfortunately, but that proposal is similar to other ones that seek protection for various other natural commons. John Michael Greer discusses a bunch of this in Wealth of Nature [1], basically arguing that merely taxing "externalities" like pollution is insufficient, you need to see the true primary economies that generate the fundamental value of nature as being those that operate without human involvement at all, and also incorporate awareness of the different cycle lengths: a pollinator garden can establish in just a season or two, a forest takes decades, replenishing an aquifer takes centuries to millenia, and putting minerals and oil in the ground, millions of years.

Any human activity which degrades, disrupts, one of these cycles, or consumes an output from it needs to compensate the rest of us accordingly.

Now obviously governance is the tricky piece. The two obvious ones are to give the money back to the taxpayers or put it in a sovereign wealth fund to be invested on their behalf, since at the end of the day, the commons should be the equal entitlement of all citizens.

[1]: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/11382620-the-wealth-o...

mr_toadtoday at 8:46 AM

Difficult to tax something you don’t have jurisdiction over.

DarmokJalad1701yesterday at 5:28 PM

> orbit value tax

How about No?