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alexpotatoyesterday at 5:51 PM6 repliesview on HN

I always like to mention how Paula Broadwell was identified as David Petraeus' mistress as it's a good example of how even without a phone you can still be identified.

- FBI had three distinct IPs linked to emails

- They geolocated those back to 3 different hotels

- They pulled the guest list from each of the hotels

- Did a "join" on them and the only guest at all 3 was Broadwell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Broadwell#Petraeus_affai...


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hackthemackyesterday at 7:18 PM

When news broke about the affair, I remembered, 6 months prior, watching an episode of the Daily Show where Jon Stewart interviewed Paula Broadwell and they even made jokes about if her husband was jealous of her spending so much time interviewing David Petraeus.

https://archive.org/details/COM_20120127_020000_The_Daily_Sh...

tantaloryesterday at 6:33 PM

It's also a good demonstration how probable cause is supposed to work.

In this case, the subpoena probably looked something like "this email must have been sent by one of your guests, so give us the guest list and we'll cross check and find the guy".

Contrast with the geofence subpoena. "Hey maybe some small % of people carry a phone that might send its location to you, can we check if they did?" It's ludicrous.

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Terr_yesterday at 9:26 PM

Similarly, for the people who don't see the big deal about geo-data, consider that knowing (A) where a phone "goes to work" and (B) where it "sleeps" is usually enough to uniquely identify a person, even when there's a large degree of inaccuracy in the coordinates.

Almost nobody who works near my office lives in my apartment complex, and vice-versa.

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ptsnevesyesterday at 8:00 PM

The whole Petraeus affair[1] is a wiki 'telenovela'. The only things missing are references to Corintian leather. I will share gossip tomorrow, even if old news.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal

remarkEonyesterday at 6:23 PM

This is also a great example of map resection.