From my understanding, distilling the model with another model is not illegal per se. Also, the output of the LLM is public domain by law, too.

So, why all this "effort" to protect the model? This is a free market, and moving fast and breaking things is the norm.

If they are so adamant on protecting their IP, maybe they can start by respecting others' IP, so we can start talking about ethics, equality and playing fair.

> loudly stating the foreign labs have been distilling their models for a while now.

They would be stating this even if it weren't true, because it fits their marketing.

While I don't disbelieve the claim outright, I highly suspect Anthropic is misleading everyone about the severity.

oh no, the company that illegally used every possible media they could get their hands on is crying that some other company is doing something potentially shady but not illegal? And using that excuse to put in place hidden surveillance systems on their customers?

> foreign labs

Apparently not just foreign labs. It looks like xAI distilled Anthropic models to train grok.

https://opentools.ai/news/xai-trained-coding-models-claude-o...

The obvious response is the realization that spending trillions on training LLMs is not a viable business model if they can be distilled for a much lower cost.

Something about throwing stones in glass houses.

Sounds suspiciously similar to the "album title", "Steal this album" by system of a down.

Im not sure why we are dithering on the boundaries of honesty when the entire content LLMs are trained on is stolen.

Are we debating "honor among thieves"?

Of course we are not, or maybe we are!

Does the behavior of a thief even matter to me? only after they do their time. And they will.

I can see the investors perched on the balconies of their condos in a couple years if that.

its a long way down.