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zarzavattoday at 5:00 AM6 repliesview on HN

Fable changes the game yet again, because it's API-only.

You're not likely to want to run Fable in a loop any more than you want to take a bunch of dollar bills and light them on fire. Every invocation of Fable has to be intentional, its context carefully managed. I feel like a babysitter.


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vidarhtoday at 10:32 AM

I just had Fable run overnight in a loop, and it fixed ~150 compiler crashing bugs that Opus had kept deferring.

I wouldn't start with Fable - when I use burndown loops I tend to include instructions to document progress and set aside anything that turns out to be harder than expected, and solve the easy stuff first. When a model runs out of easy stuff and start struggling to make progress on what is left, I can let it keep churning on that - they get there eventually - or I can bump it up to a smarter model if one is available.

Opus had churned a week driving down spec failures, and did a great job. The 150 Fable took overnight were the ones Opus had kept putting aside.

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weird-eye-issuetoday at 5:28 AM

Compared to Opus 4.8 I really haven't been impressed

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jacobgoldtoday at 7:06 AM

Fable is supposed to return to subscription plans, unless I'm missing something: https://jacob.gold/posts/fable-5-removal-is-temporary/

  Anthropic says the change is about capacity and is temporary. In its launch announcement on June 9, 2026, it says:

  "After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can."
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NitpickLawyertoday at 5:28 AM

I agree with you that you don't need fable for everything, and you have to be careful on what you run it on. CRUD stuff, sure even the small models can do it. But there certainly are tasks that are very much suited for the absolute SotA and you'd leave money on the table by not using it. And how much a task is worth is dependant on how much it improves your bottom line. So the cost/token becomes largely irrelevant.

Let's take this [1] benchmark. A bit more context here [2].

Here models are asked to create kernels for running inference on models. This is a benchmark perfectly suited and highly relevant right now. It's easily verifiable, an active are of research, and the results are immediately useful.

Say you have 1 unit of compute, it costs 300k $ and serves 1x users. In comes Fable and after one session it gives you 30% speed-up on your 1 unit of compute. It can now serve 1.3x users. How much is that one session worth for you? How much is it worth for a company using 10 units? 100 units? How much is it worth for a hyper-scaler running 10.000 units? How much is it worth for a lab that trains the next frontier model and then serves it from 100.000 units? 30% is relative. And the cost for one session is really meaningless. It can cost 1m$ / session and it would still be worth it for someone.

[1] - https://kernelbench.com/mega

[2] - https://x.com/elliotarledge/status/2072814573753975266

erutoday at 5:13 AM

For now, I can use Fable from the web just fine.

> You're not likely to want to run Fable in a loop any more than you want to take a bunch of dollar bills and light them on fire. Every invocation of Fable has to be intentional, its context carefully managed.

Eh, that's just because it's the current frontier model. Give it a few weeks, and prices will drop.

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nobodycares1today at 5:33 AM

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