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perching_aixlast Saturday at 1:45 PM1 replyview on HN

> without having the majority of comments being from environmental-jihadists

Not to break your wishful thinking filled bubble, but those are very clearly not "will somebody please think about the environment" type comments. Plenty of people simply fucking despise the ever living shit out of this class of vehicle, just in general.

You really don't need to give two hot shits about the environment to find scooters obnoxiously loud smoke factories, to have a problem with that, and to be absolutely fucking over them as a result. Delivery drivers made sure of that in the past years. I'm sure it's much more convenient for you to just file it under your favorite political grift, but I assure you with confidence, the hate on these is entirely self-interested and genuine.


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lostloginlast Saturday at 8:36 PM

> the hate on these is entirely self-interested

I’ve never before considered altruistic hate versus self interested hate.

I’ve a foot in both camps over scooter noise and fumes, but do love a good Vespa.

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