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tunesmithtoday at 12:22 AM5 repliesview on HN

How do you mean OpenAI lets you use your own harness? I'm under the impression that a custom harness requires the OpenAI SDK, which requires api tokens rather than plus/pro accounts.


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lhltoday at 12:42 AM

https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2058071172361998482

"A little secret. About 5% of our production traffic is on the Pi harness, about another 5% is on OpenCode. Reminder you can use your ChatGPT account in a flourishing set of other tools.

We’ll continue to make Codex awesome, but you have options."

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smoetoday at 1:48 AM

Not just harnesses, you can even use the subscription in CI/CD. That, plus the fact that web chat does not count toward the same limits, is why I think the Codex personal plan is easily 10x the value of Claude Code.

https://developers.openai.com/codex/auth/ci-cd-auth

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hakunintoday at 12:38 AM

You must've missed the OpenAI's response to Anthropic forcing everyone to their own harness if they want subscription pricing: official endorsement of custom harnesses like opencode and pi even when used with Codex subscription.

I think they even partnered with opencode or something like that (don't remember).

HumanOstrichtoday at 12:34 AM

Anthropic is the one that prohibits harnesses other than Claude Code on subscription plans and bans users for disobeying.

OpenAI officially allows that with subscriptions.

miki123211today at 7:19 AM

OpenAI doesn't require that; only Anthropic does.

OpenAI's harness is fully open source[1], and (AFAIK) doesn't come with any kind of signed-build request integrity verification like Claude does. And by that logic, if you're allowed to use their API with a fork of Codex that you yourself compiled, there's nothing stopping you from making some other harness act like such a fork.

[1] https://github.com/openai/codex

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