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AmazingTurtletoday at 8:55 AM2 repliesview on HN

It's funny, they sell you a subscription for frontier models, then over time begin to nerf them rapidly and no one talks about it. Should give me a discount when they reduce reasoning effort silently on the server side!

But on the other hand, I've been using 5.5-high on a daily basis in multithreading workflows, i.e. in parallel. I'm barely exhausting my weekly limits. I can't even Human-as-a-Service fast enough to catch up and read all the plans and implementations it does. So there is that.


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brooksttoday at 3:26 PM

I’ve been paying $200/mo for Claude code for, IDK, 9 months?

I am 100% sure that I get far more value from today than I did in December. The models are smarter, the limits are higher. It’s possible there’s some “five steps forward, one step back” going on, but it’s hard to imagine complaining about that step back.

benjiro29today at 12:16 PM

> they sell you a subscription for frontier models, then over time begin to nerf them rapidly and no one talks about it.

People talk about it all the time. Just check some of the dozens of forums where its non-stop complaining about nerfs, limit nerfs, performance issues etc...

Is hard to prove that any downgrade is a effect of being deliberately served a lower class model / lower quant, or whatever. Or the "optimizations" hurting the models performance.

The TOS allows for those service "optimizations", so legally, nobody has a foot to stand upon. Like when OpenAI or was it Anthropic played with the cache, this to free up more server resources, only to later discover that its gutted the long term context behavior, and heavily degraded the models as context grew.

If you want 100% guaranteed the same performance/behavior, you need to run a model yourself (be it rented GPUs online or your own local setup). But its going to cost you a lot more ...