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Y-bartoday at 11:37 AM5 repliesview on HN

Multiple things can be true at the same time.

There can exist strong consumer protections against misuse of their personal data by various entities.

And there can simultaneously also exist governmental overreach against citizens private data.

The world is complex, few things are truly binary.


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BSDobelixtoday at 11:50 AM

But now you have governmental overreach and legalized spying on European Citizens by (mostly) US Companies, so i would say that Law is truly binary bad.

Also how the Law was forced is extremely bad.

But hey it's once more proof that the EU is not a democratically spirited institution.

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ibejoebtoday at 4:30 PM

There can be, but this isn't it. In the EU, a company can't send you an email, but it can read your email.

joenot443today at 12:28 PM

In this case, the phrase “consumer protections” is almost insulting when the things it’s supposedly protecting us from are a triviality compared to the horror show being introduced.

phendrenad2today at 3:16 PM

There will surely be some people who applaud your post for pointing this out. But the vast majority of people don't see "government spies on me" vs "private industry spies on me" as a meaningful distinction and there are MANY MANY recent examples of this: the discourse around Flock, the discourse around ICE using personal information to trace dissenters, the discourse around DOGE and Palantir.

But I suppose the OP said all that needs to be said, and so this spot was left empty for whatever nonsense comment dared to fill the void, and you won.

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3997531578today at 11:42 AM

No, "strong digital privacy" and "governmental overreach against citizens private data" is mutually exclusive.

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