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GodelNumberingtoday at 2:58 PM4 repliesview on HN

Lot more details in the linked report https://ai.meta.com/static-resource/muse-spark-1-1-evaluatio...

From Terminal-bench-2.1 details,

> We use a bash-tool-only agent harness to evaluate 89 Terminal-Bench 2.1 tasks from the official repository, where resources are capped at 6 CPU cores and 8GB RAM.

This disqualifies the results. Each terminal bench task has a cpu upper limit and RAM upper limit. Overriding either is disqualification.

For reference, in tbench-2.1,

1. 0 out of 89 task allow 6 cpu cores (highest is 4, and i think only 1 task)

2. 8 out of 89 tasks allow 8GB RAM

This kind of shady benchmarking (I was talking about it just yesterday in a different context https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48838212) takes all joy out of building a harness to improve benchmark performance of a model because no matter what you do, you won't beat the headline (cheating) number. This is presumably why this model is not in the official benchmark leaderboard https://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.1

As an ex Meta employee, this is a little sad but not massively surprising. 'Number go up' is the core performance evaluation metric until PSC is done and you move on.


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rsanektoday at 4:58 PM

This doesn't seem that big of a deal to me? I mean, in any other area where I want an assessment of a product, I'm not going to trust what the product producer says about it at face value -- obviously they're going to be biased. This is the whole raison d'etre for independent testing, like https://artificialanalysis.ai.

kingstnaptoday at 3:34 PM

Why are resource limits considered at all aside from models accidentally fork bombing themselves?

I thought the benchmark was supposed to be about terminal use and specifically chaining together lots of bash tool calls. Which test cases does this matter for?

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efromvttoday at 3:23 PM

Out of curiosity, how often are the resource limits the bottlenecks? What do harnesses do to help here - limit parallelism? More efficient tools?

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meric_today at 4:58 PM

Huh? What are you talking about?

https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/infrastructure-noise

Is anthropic benchmark maxxing and cheating on terminal bench too? They don't follow the strict resource "limits" either

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