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hptnrrtoday at 2:19 PM4 repliesview on HN

ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database.

This is most egregious in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example. Would Carlsen have won game six against Nepo if Nepo had had a tablebase? No, it was a draw many times.

Hacker culture has slowly been subverted since the mediocre developers of open source projects sold out to corporations and became managers of the A developers. Literally like pg wrote: C students manage the A students. Except that in open source this was a novelty and the A students were too timid or conflict averse to fork.


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ben_wtoday at 2:41 PM

> ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database.

If the human needs a literature references and a database to answer a question, can they be said to "know" the answer?

ChatGPT doesn't have an endgame database for chess. Despite having "read" all the literature about chess, it will hallucinate the board state if you try to play chess with it directly. But it "knows" how to write a chess engine that would beat me… and more than that, one which would beat a competent player.

It is a very weird and spiky form of intelligence, but it's also definitely not just a database.

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everdrivetoday at 2:21 PM

>ChatGPT does not know more than you.

Maybe in the area of your expertise, but ChatGPT probably knows most of the Habsburg dynasty. (just as one example) The breadth of knowledge, even when the depth is quirky and limited, is genuinely a big deal.

NitpickLawyertoday at 2:45 PM

> in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example

You / Carlsen / anyone will not beat a top chess engine even without the endgame databases. In the vast majority of cases you / anyone won't even reach that part (7piece / 8piece for some positions).

> ChatGPT does not know more than you

Yes, yes it does. Your fallacy is that you confuse knowledge with "knowing what to do when you don't have that knowledge". But in pure raw knowledge (definitions, trivia, bits of history, etc) chatbots are oom over any human being. Just try any of the "benchmarks" gamified by people.

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CamperBob2today at 3:16 PM

ChatGPT does not know more than you.

You'd have to be deluded or deranged to believe that. Even if it does nothing else, it "knows" more than any human alive.