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Brendinoooyesterday at 10:14 PM1 replyview on HN

>Impossible things by definition didn't happen.

Can things happen that are possible via mechanisms you don't understand, or are incapable of grasping because of your sensory/intellectual limitations?

>You're just asking people to assume what the Bible says about the supernatural is real

I don't think that's what happened there.

>offering the lack of scientific evidence as supporting evidence for the Bible

No, the point is that the scientific method is not the only way to prove that things in the past happened.

>to people who don't already operate under the theistic model of reality that you do

How would you explain yourself to a two-dimensional person, and reveal yourself to its world?


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krappyesterday at 10:47 PM

>Can things happen that are possible via mechanisms you don't understand, or are incapable of grasping because of your sensory/intellectual limitations?

Possibly, but I fully believe science is capable of explaining these mechanisms, because thus far science has been able to explain everything that theists claimed was supernatural in nature, while no evidence has been found to justify belief in the supernatural.

So this is, at best, an argument that scientific models are incomplete (which no one would disagree with) but not that scientific models are invalid, or that the supernatural is real.

>I don't think that's what happened there.

Their claim was that science cannot prove the supernatural, but the only possible evidence would be personal testimonials - and we're in a subthread litigating the supernatural claims surrounding the Exodus story - which only exist in the Bible. So I respectfully disagree. They were literally arguing that the fact that these claims were written in the Bible was evidence of their veracity.

Also, science should be able to prove the supernatural, as every claim about the supernatural is that it manifests in some physical, tangible form in our universe, which means it must leave some kind of evidence.

>No, the point is that the scientific method is not the only way to prove that things in the past happened.

It is, though. Claims alone don't prove anything. We prove that things happened in the past by discovering evidence of it, through artifacts or documents, and finding corroborating evidence, which is science.

>How would you explain yourself to a two-dimensional person, and reveal yourself to its world?

First, demonstrate that two dimensional people exist, otherwise it's a nonsense question.

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