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fsutsyesterday at 11:24 PM2 repliesview on HN

If telegram disappeared then others would immediately take its place.

Telegram also isnt device to device fully encrypted unless you use a more limited private chat and, as Telegram uses googles messaging service, so likely compromised to NSA anyway.


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duskwufftoday at 1:53 AM

> If telegram disappeared then others would immediately take its place.

I'm not certain that's the case. Telegram has survived in large part because Durov is incredibly wealthy and can afford to shovel money into running the service more or less indefinitely. There's no obvious heir apparent.

inigyouyesterday at 11:32 PM

That's why they keep getting in trouble. They're not E2EE, but keep refusing court requests just because "we don't wanna"

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