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pocksuppettoday at 5:44 PM6 repliesview on HN

IMHO these signals have more to do with the market than AI. They aren't finding AI to be have less ROI than before - they are requiring higher ROI than before, because there is less money remaining to be invested.

Managing the total amount of money so that investment bubbles peter out before they get excessively big is supposed to be the central bank's job.


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lelanthrantoday at 5:56 PM

> They aren't finding AI to be have less ROI than before - they are requiring higher ROI than before, because there is less money remaining.

What ROI? There was no return, and there currently isn't any return on investment, because those companies did not exit yet!

The exit plan is to offload overpriced shares, that they paid billions for, onto the public market. If they don't IPO, those investors get nothing.

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cmiles8today at 5:53 PM

The bond market is measuring the risk of repayment though not the success ROI of the dollars invested by the company (that impacts the stock price but not so much the bond price). The bond markets are hiccuping on AI because there’s growing concern that these loans simply won’t get repaid.

jstanleytoday at 5:56 PM

> there is less money remaining.

In what sense?

This may be related to the commonly-held fallacy of "cash on the sidelines". Cash is always on the sidelines. Cash is not created or destroyed by buying and selling stocks or bonds. Cash is simply handed from one party to another, but the cash has to be held by somebody.

qeternitytoday at 6:00 PM

> is supposed to be the central bank's job.

What? No it's not, and never has been.

Without even getting into the practical vs. theoretical of Fed dual mandate (funding deficits), even the most uncharitable take on modern CBs wouldn't suggest this.

s1artibartfasttoday at 6:25 PM

Challening bond offerings and higher yields can be a funtion of supply.

Downgrade of credit worthiness is different. That depends on how leveraged the company is

toomuchtodotoday at 5:55 PM

Kinda cool to be at a point in the hype cycle where the capital markets are almost exhausted due a to a speculative bubble, pushing up yield demand. Move over tulip mania.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

> No of course there isn't enough capital for all of this. Having said that, there is enough capital to do this for a at least a little while longer. -- Gil Luria (Managing Director and Analyst at D.A. Davidson)