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MSFT_Edgingtoday at 4:32 PM2 repliesview on HN

Kratom is such an interesting drug.

About 10 years ago, when it was less well-known, you could find better raw leaf powder and it was helping people get off actual opiates.

IIRC there's an effect where the actual chemicals get stronger for older leaves. The bigger market has caused the harvest period to shorten, making the powder worse quality, and creating room for the concentrated extracts and stuff like 7-Oh.

Tragedy of the commons I guess. I knew people who started taking way too much, but also people who were able to use it responsibly. People say "let doctors prescribe", but that ignores how in order for that to happen, a pharma company will need something they can patent, pay for the years of testing, get sole control over it for a period, and years later a generic can come about. All when you can dry a leaf and use it as-is. There should be room for plants to be consumed. Screw it, enjoy poppy, cannabis, kratom, tobacco, etc.

It probably shouldn't be sold in gas stations but it probably also shouldn't be outright banned, as we'll just get new, more dangerous analogues.


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lotsofpulptoday at 5:05 PM

>All when you can dry a leaf and use it as-is.

With no evidence of efficacy that the aforementioned expensive years of testing/trials provide.

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parineumtoday at 4:59 PM

> People say "let doctors prescribe", but that ignores how in order for that to happen, a pharma company will need something they can patent, pay for the years of testing, get sole control over it for a period, and years later a generic can come about.

Is there not universies that could just do this research on the leaf itself?

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