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SOLAR_FIELDSyesterday at 10:45 PM2 repliesview on HN

This question hinges on whether model advancement plateaus enough for machine sized models to compare to frontier performance. If it does, the answer is yes. If it doesn’t, the answer is no


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jfaattoday at 5:11 AM

I disagree. The point of the frontier models is to do everything as well as possible ("AGI" race or whatever) but smaller models with some RL are going to be the clear winner for a ton of use cases. Think about all the use cases for LLMs that would never be economical at frontier inference costs, and in no way need it. You don't need or even want a phd polymath helping you with small productivity tasks that most people use computers for every day. It's often overwrought and annoying. I don't even really like the frontier models for coding for this reason. They're constantly blowing up scope and you have to fight it constantly.

cptskippyyesterday at 11:12 PM

More likely, it's going to be whether frontier models advance enough that most people would be willing to pay for them. Right now they don't, but a model you can run locally for free on hardware you already own is very compelling because, while they're not as good as Frontier Models, they're still pretty good.

Tools like Opencode demonstrate that when you box them in tightly enough they can actually be pretty competent.